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Can I still sell my car during the PNO (planned nonoperation)? I live in California. I have one more question. In California, the smog check is required to register autos. So, what happens when buyer needs to do smog check for a car which is during PNO?


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In California some types of vehicles do not require insurance. These include off-road vehicles, trailers, special equipment vehicles, and those registered as PNO (planned nonoperation). The CA DMV states that if it is time to renew the registration for a vehicle that you do not plan to use, you may place your vehicle on Planned Non-Operation status. You mentioned your car is registered as a PNO and thus does not need auto insurance coverage while it is inoperable and off the road.

With a car that is listed as a PNO you cannot drive the vehicle legally and it cannot be parked on a public street. If you to drive the car under PNO, you will need to register it. So if you plan on selling it to someone that will test drive it and drive it away from where you have it stored or garaged then you will need to take the PNO off and thus register and insure the car so that it is back on the road legally.

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So you can sell the car with PNO, but it cannot be parked on a public street or test driven.

You can contact the California DMV for clarification of what to do when selling a car that is listed as a PNO however remember when you request a PNO there is an affidavit of non-use in which you certified under the penalty of perjury that the vehicle listed would not be operated or parked on any California roadway and that if the car is operated or parked on any CA roadway prior to complying with applicable registration and financial responsibility laws that you will be subject to a citation.

Selling a car shouldn't be considered "use", but the activities related to selling the car may be considered "use".

Upon receipt of this Affidavit of Non Use the CA DMV will cancel the registration. The vehicle cannot be operated on a California highway until proof of insurance is received by the department. The DMV notes specifically that if at any time the vehicle is operated or parked where it may be subject to citation, then full registration fees and penalties for that year become due.

You should contact the CA DMV to find out what steps you should take to remove the PNO if you are going to be selling the vehicle and it will thus be going back on the roadway, there may be some concessions that are made.

As for the smog issue, whenever there is a change of ownership, the DMV refers to the transaction as a "transfer." The California DMV says that the seller is required to obtain smog certification when a vehicle is transferred so you would actually be responsible for the smog check. The CA Department of Consumer Affairs notes that many vehicles only need a Smog Check when they are being sold or are being registered in California after previously being registered in another state.

So the smog issue would be on you as the seller of the vehicle so it again is something you should check with the CA DMV about when you also discuss the PNO issue in terms of selling the vehicle you have listed as non-operational.

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9 Responses to "Can I still sell my car during the PNO (planned nonoperation)? I live in California. I have one more question. In California, the smog check is required to register autos. So, what happens when buyer needs to do smog check for a car which is during PNO?"
  1. gee October 15, 2012 at 11:41 AM

    You can sell a car while its in PNO status, but you need to go to the DMV or AAA and get a one day pass so the person can test drive it and drive it to the smog check that same day.

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  2. Same shoes September 12, 2012 at 1:14 PM

    You can sell PNO car as-is, for parts. Otherwise you need to reinstate the registration for which you need to do smog, get insurance and pay full registration fee. Vehicle Moving Permit (REG 172) allows you to operate PNO vehicle for one day to move it or take it to smog station.

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  3. Anonymous July 28, 2010 at 9:28 PM

    Quite a long "answer" that does not even attempt to answer the question of how to sell a vehicle *during* PNO.

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  4. Anonymous February 10, 2009 at 6:42 PM

    I rated this answer a ten because it tells you about things you may not have thought about or considered. Better to know in advance, than learn in hindsight.

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  5. Anonymous December 29, 2008 at 12:31 AM

    what if you want to give the PNO vehicle to someone (buyer) for free.. but later, he turns around and sue you because now he need to fix the car to pass the smog inspection? any information on how to do that?

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  6. Anonymous October 09, 2008 at 4:28 PM

    Your assuming the buyer wants to test drive the vehicle before the sale. What if the vehicle is sold PNO and towed to its location with a DMV moving permit. I the seller don't need to register the vehicle there for no need to smog it. That is the buyer responsibility.

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  7. Anonymous May 23, 2008 at 3:25 PM

    I want information on selling my PNO vehicle to the State of California. Prior to having the vehicle put on PNO satus it would not pass the required smog certification.

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  8. Anonymous February 19, 2008 at 12:18 PM

    The fundamental question is "How can I sell a car that needs work when both the buyer and seller agree that the buyer will do the work and subsequently get the smog check?" There must be a standard approach to this.

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  9. Anonymous February 06, 2008 at 5:46 PM

    What if the seller lives on miles of private road? Therefore, not breaking a law if test driving? If the bill of sale was signed, isnt it the buyers responsablility to have the vehicle towed, since he signed and was aware of the pno?

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