CarInsurance.com Cheaper Auto
Insurance Available
> ZIP code:  Quote & Compare
Prefer to talk to an agent? Call 1-800-964-4849
CarInsurance.com Navigation

Get Free Quotes Now

Zip Code:
Save With CarInsurance.com!
Car Insurance Learning Center  Learning Center  Auto Insurance Questions & Answers   Questions & Answers  Professional Answers   Professional Answer

Car Insurance Question  My son just got a ticket for friends being in the car do you no what the penalties are for this in California? He also did not have his license on him, he dropped his wallet while getting into the car.

It would appear that your son must have a California provisional license and be during his first 12 months when there are extra restrictions on his license. In CA with a provisional driver license, your son must be accompanied and supervised by a licensed parent, guardian or other licensed driver 25 years of age or older, or by a licensed or certified driving instructor when your son:

  1. Transport passengers under 20 years of age at any time, for the first twelve months.
  2. Drive between 11 pm and 5 am for the first twelve months.

This means your son cannot give anyone under 20 years old (your friends, your brother(s), sister(s), cousin(s), etc.) a ride unless he has a licensed parent, a guardian or other adult 25 years old or older in the car with him. Your son is also not allowed to drive between 11 pm and 5 am during his first year after getting his license unless he has a licensed parent, a guardian or other adult 25 years old or older in the car with him.

The California DMV and CA driver's manual states that with a provisional license, your son can drive by himself between the hours of 5 am and 11 pm. If he is under 18, he cannot be employed to drive a motor vehicle.

It is our understanding that a teen driver must be stopped for another violation, such as speeding or failing to wear a safety belt, before a ticket is written for violating the conditions above. Violation of passenger or nighttime driving restrictions results in either court-ordered community service or a fine

Section 12814.6 of the CA Motor Vehicle code gives more information on these penalties. Here it states the court that violating the restrictions of a Ca provisional license means that the court shall impose one of the following:

  • Not less than eight hours nor more than 16 hours of community service for a first offense and not less than 16 hours nor more than 24 hours of community service for a second or subsequent offense; or
  • A fine of not more than thirty-five dollars ($35) for a first offense and a fine of not more than fifty dollars ($50) for a second or subsequent offense.

The CA VC also notes that points will not be assigned for breaking the restrictions of your provisional license. Since your was cited for this violation of California law you or he should call the court listed on the citation to find out more about the penalties he will receive due to breaking the restrictions of his provisional license.

Keep in mind that if he was stopped for another offense, speeding, etc, that he can be assigned points for that moving violation if he is convicted. California law (also part of VC section 12814.6) notes that:

A 30-day restriction shall be imposed when a driver's record shows a violation point count of two or more points in 12 months, as determined in accordance with Section 12810. The restriction shall require the licensee to be accompanied by a licensed parent, spouse, guardian, or other licensed driver 25 years of age or older, except when operating a class M vehicle, or so licensed, with no passengers aboard.

A six-month suspension of the driving privilege and a one-year term of probation shall be imposed whenever a licensee's record shows a violation point count of three or more points in 12 months.

If he was ticketed for not having his license in possession, he may be able to get this one dismissed. CA vehicle code 12500 makes it illegal, and a misdemeanor, to drive without a valid license on any highway in California. A person cited for driving without a valid license in CA may be punished by probation, time in county jail, and fines of up to $1000 plus surcharges.

The good news is that a separate CA vehicle code 12951, discusses having your license in your possession. This VC states that a) The licensee shall have the valid driver's license issued to him or her in his or her immediate possession at all times when driving a motor vehicle upon a highway and b) The driver of a motor vehicle shall present his or her license for examination upon demand of a peace officer enforcing the provisions of this code.

However, any charge under this code shall be dismissed when the person charged produces in court a driver's license duly issued to that person and valid at the time of his or her arrest, except that upon a third or subsequent charge the court in its discretion may dismiss the charge.

When a temporary, interim, or duplicate driver's license is produced in court, the charge shall not be dismissed unless the court has been furnished proof by the Department of Motor Vehicles that the temporary, interim, or duplicate license was issued prior to the arrest, that the driving privilege and license had not been suspended or revoked, and that the person was eligible for the temporary, interim, or duplicate license.

From this information it appears that your son should be able to get his driving without a license ticket dismissed once he can show proof that he did have a valid provisional driver's license, just not in his possession, at the time of his ticket. He can call the court listed on his ticket to see how and where he must show proof and also if he will have any administrative fees to get this ticket dismissed once he shows his license to the court.

Get cheap student car insurance information here with us for California.

Share this on: Digg This StumbleUpon Add to Facebook Add to Del.icio.us Furl It Seed Newsvine
reddit this! Save to Ma.gnolia Save to Blinklist Technorati This Submit to Netscape Windows Live Favorites Add Google Bookmark
Related Questions
Car Insurance RelatedWhat happens, in the state of California, if you get into a car accident with only a learner's permit and you have no insurance under your name on the car and you have passengers in the car but the ac...
Car Insurance RelatedIn California, they have changed the law recently regarding brand new drivers. It used to be that they couldn't have passengers in the car under age 25 for 6 months. Since my son has gotten his licens...
Car Insurance RelatedCan an insurance company cancel a policy after it has been issued in CA or any other state for that matter? What is their time limit before they can only non-renew a policy? Are there restrictions as...
Car Insurance RelatedIn Los Angeles, California, I received two speeding tickets. One in July and one in August for going 75mph and 80mph. I was able to go for traffic school for the former. Am I able to go for traffic sc...
Car Insurance RelatedIf a 17 year old is driving his mother's car and she cancelled the insurance on THAT CAR only but he is still listed as a driver on the mother's policy\other cars is he considered a Prop 213 (Californ...
Car Insurance RelatedI have 2 DUIs in California, one 2005 and the other in 2006. I have a restricted license now, what happens if I get pulled over and cannot prove it is to and from work?
Car Insurance RelatedWhat happens when you are 16 and not allowed to drive with a passenger under 25 in California but you get caught with one in your car? What are the penalties?
Car Insurance RelatedIs it possible to obtain a learner's permit in the state of California if I have two months until I become 15 1/2?
Tell us what you think about this answer.
What did you think of this question and answer?

poor 
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10

 excellent
Tell us why you rated this car insurance question and answer this way:
Visitor Comments
No visitors have commented on this answer.
Question Details
This car insurance question was asked on 8/11/2008
This auto insurance answer was last updated on 8/14/2008
Shannon requested this car insurance solution.
Rated 0 out of 10 based on 0 votes.
Helpful Tips
Print Car Insurance Answers Print this car insurance question and answer
Email Car Insurance Answers Email this auto insurance answer
Disclaimer: Answers and comments provided are for information purposes. They are not intended to substitute informed professional advice. These responses should not be interpreted as a recommendation to buy or sell any insurance product, or to provide financial or legal advice. Please refer to your insurance policy for specific coverage and exclusion information. Please read our Terms Of Use.
©2008 CarInsurance.com, Inc. - Online Insurance Marketplace™
safe and secure auto insurance   better business bureau car insurance   Tested, Safe, and Secure Car Insurance